Let me state these "7" things...

1. "The Word of God in and of itself is Perfect"! It always has been, even from before the foundations of the world! Seeing as it is, "God Breathed", it cannot be improved upon.

(The problem with men who want to do away with the gifts by these Scriptures, is that they want to place the whole Bible under one heading: "Perfect", and thus treat -"IT"- as a "god/Idol" in place of the Life-Giving Spirit of God.
So rather than keeping in context each and every word and meaning, and worship the God who inspired those words as "The Only Perfect", they treat "The Bible" that way instead!)

2. They fail to realize that Jesus did "many more things" and said "much, much more" than what is written in the Bible (John 21:25). How can "The Bible" then be "Perfect" without also including all these works and words?

(The Bible is only "WRITTEN IN PART" even today (one example: Remember the 7 thunders in Revelation 10:4?). The Bible contains all that we need to have - no more, no less.
Therefore I ask you, "Can their version of "Perfect" be called perfect without including ALL that Jesus ever did or said?" Not the way I see it!)

3. The "Perfect" here is dealing with when we see God "FACE TO FACE" (2 Cor.3:18). Today many see Him through the eyes of faith - meaning they behold Him as if in a glass darkly, unclearly... but then (when we receive the Spirit - adding the fruit of Love to our Faith, thus increasing it) we will be seeing/knowing Him as He really is, through the eyes of the Spirit.

(Understand that Paul is dealing with "Seeing" here, not with written words and books that go to complete the Bible, etc....but SEEING God! "Except a man is born again...he can neither see nor enter the kingdom of God"! - John 3:3 and 5)

4. There is not one scripture saying the gifts have ever passed away at any time.

(Can the true spiritual gifts of God be 'less' than perfect or be deemed, 'inferior'? I think not! The word of God has its place and the gifts have theirs. Look at Jesus' own ministry with both -- and He IS the Word of God!!)

5. I know that what passes off as the "gifts" today in many (ministries!?) is purely fabricated illusion.

(False prophets use (i.e. fabricate) these [gifts] of theirs as money making occupations.)

6. To say the gifts have passed away on the premise that the "Perfect" has come (i.e. the Bible), without presenting any proof is to "take away" from the Word of God and effectively "Quench" the Holy Spirit!

It seems to be all or nothing. Either heavy on the gifts, and light on the written word or visa versa. (Yes the gifts are sorely abused by the profiteers (like Simon the sorcerer - Acts 8), but so too is the Bible used as a weapon by the biased and self-righteous.) In scriptures as 1 Cor.14:1 and others, Paul is telling us to follow hard after love, and seek after spiritual gifts, especially prophesy, in order to edify the church. Remember, it is the Spirit of prophecy which gives us the testimony of or witness to the Lord Jesus Christ.

7. The gifts are "Spiritual"...of the Spirit. But...So too is the "Word"...and "The Real Word of God = THE Perfect" is none other than "Christ Himself"! It's not some "outward" book but an "inward Spiritual" reality and proof of the living Son of God written upon our hearts.

("My words are Spirit and they are Life", says Jesus. (They're much, much more than the written word!)

And when He-The Perfect-comes; upon our receiving the Holy Spirit through faith in Christ; Who then reveals to us His glory, then that, my friends, is when we'll need NONE to teach us - 1 Corinthians 13:12 "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known".

For the Spirit will take what is Jesus' and reveal it (i.e. His glory, power, perfection, holiness, etc.) to us. (John 16:15)

The word says: 'For we "KNOW" in part'. It doesn't say: 'For we "HAVE" in part'. Therefore how can "the Perfect" be the Bible when one knows "in part"??? "Perfect" means just that: "Perfect"!
Remember Jesus' own words: "John 5:39-40 - "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life." Here's PROOF that the people (and some did) could have come to Him even before the New Testament was written!

Wood says (2/10/96): "Full-blown revival broke out along with many being slain in the Holy Spirit for hours as waves of something came, cleaning us all out. We did not know what hit us..." She said (2/16/96): "...[We] have heard over 170 sermons in a row that are very similar." She tells (2/18/96) of "dancing in the Spirit" and being "completely lost in another place." She added: "I felt like I had jumped off a ski slope and was flying. It was so glorious to be free. I did end up on the floor right in front, but no one noticed except my husband who graciously covered me....Being picked up by God in uninhibited worship is unlike any human experience."

She said intercessors (3/17/96) were all "slain in the Spirit in the hallways and went into deep wailing and moaning. She says of leaving church at 2 a.m. "it seemed like it was not the same day we arrived...I think it is because we actually do GO somewhere while we are in that building!"
Wood (7/14/96) told of an experience that was "like a bolt of lightning hit me. I hit the wall, slid down it, and shook and jerked uncontrollably for I do not know how long. It took my breath away and I was taking deep gasps over and over...my head would jerk...I was being filled with a fresh anointing of the Holy Ghost."

If you think it was chilling on videotape, you should see it in person. He has a woman who travels with him who began the meeting by preaching what I can only describe as a message of covetousness. It was the usual description of her life before and after blessing and all because she had "heard the Lord show her how to roll in the dough" . I don't know if the Lord she was talking to said "roll them for dough" or what she said...but it was clear by the end of her message that everyone was ready to give her their last penny in order to get what she had.
Then the man of the hour, Rocking Rodney Brown. He was preceeded by a musical mantra encouraging everyone to come and "drink, drink, drink" and to turn to each their neighbor and ask them, "Did you come here to drink today?"
Of course, I and my companion declined when asked and didn't sing along with their drinking song. Rodney is very good at detecting skeptics or opposition and so he spent alot of time locking eyes on us, in an auditorium of about 800 people, and using scripture against us...you know, "Touch not mine annointed...yatata, yatata..." You know we were scared.....NOT!
At any rate, he preached Galatians, if you can call it that, after which ensued shrieking, jerking, akin to cerebral palsy, which I'm sure the Lord doesn't afflict his people with as a blessing, shouting, dancing, reeling, basically slobbering. Interestingly enough, the scripture's he taught from Galatians was a stinging rebuke of he and his ministry, but he was too far gone to realized it.

I have noted that when sitting under these false brethren that they ALWAYS without exception will preach against their own selves without realizeing it. Their damnation comes straight out of their own words. Very interesting how God's Word is true and all men are liars.

In summary, what we witnessed was basically a bar scene with a bunch of greedy, gullible people who were more interested in satisfying their flesh than they were in knowing God as he wants to be known and worshipping Him in Spirit and in Truth. That would be too hard for them. It's much easier to have an experience than to go to the Word, a Greek dictionary, compare some commentaries or read some Bondage of the Will.
No, most of them opted to give themselves over to this spirit who was masquerading, at least in their understanding, as the Holy Spirit. It's hard for me to even type those words as what happened there was just plain blasphemy. This man is a master of human nature and psychology...in short, a conman of the worst kind.

Can we get any farther away from the truth than this??? In the catechism they teach that the only way to salvation is through participation in the mass and in the sacraments of the Roman Catholic church?

What kind of a "Jesus" do people come to believe in if they are taught this on a regular basis? What hope do they have of finding the real truth through the teachings of the Roman Catholic church if they are not encouraged to study the Bible and either change the church or get out of it???

I have included a few well known catholic church's articles of the faith, defining her beliefs and teachings below of the New Catholic Catechism, published in 1992, confirming the original beliefs and findings of the Council of Trent, 1545-1563, and re-affirmed by Vatican Council II:

Article #841 The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day.

846 Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation ... thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

969 ... (Mary) Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office of hers but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us gifts of eternal salvation. ... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.

980 It is through the sacrament of Penance that the baptized can be reconciled with God and with the Church: "Penance has rightly been called by the holy Fathers `a laborious kind of baptism.' This sacrament of Penance is necessary for salvation for those who have fallen after Baptism, just as Baptism is necessary for salvation for those who have not yet been reborn" (Council of Trent (1551): DS 1672; cf. St. Gregory of Nazianzus, Oratio 39, 17: PG 36,356).

1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation, but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.

1032 From the beginning the Church has honoured the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God. The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead.

1129 The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation.

1131 The sacraments are efficacious signs of grace, instituted by Christ and entrusted to the Church, by which divine life is dispensed to us.

1263 By Baptism all sins are forgiven, original sin and all personal sins, as well as all punishment for sin.

1367 The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice: ... "In this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and offered in an unbloody manner."

1374 ... In the most blessed sacrament of the Eucharist "the body and blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ and, therefore, the whole Christ is truly, really, and substantially contained."

1375 It is by the conversion of the bread and wine into Christ's body and blood that Christ becomes present in this sacrament. ... The priest, in the role of Christ, pronounces these words, but their power and grace are God's. This is my body, he says. This word transforms the things offered. ... The power of the blessing prevails over that of nature, because by the blessing nature itself is changed.

1414 As sacrifice, the Eucharist is also offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead and to obtain spiritual or temporal benefits from God.

1475 In this wonderful exchange, the holiness of one profits others ... Thus recourse to the communion of saints lets the contrite sinner be more promptly and efficaciously purified of the punishments for sin.

1476 We also call these spiritual goods of the communion of saints the Church's treasury....

1477 This treasury includes as well the prayers and good works of the Blessed Virgin Mary. They are truly immense, unfathomable and even pristine in their value before God. In the treasury, too, are the prayers and good works of all the saints. ... In this way they attained their own salvation and at the same time cooperated in saving their brothers in the unity of the Mystical Body.

1479 Since the faithful departed now being purified are also members of the same communion of saints, one way we can help them is to obtain indulgences for them, so that the temporal punishments due for their sins may be remitted.

To any person, priest or church who preaches a gospel like that above, Paul had this to say:

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Gal 1:8-9